[TÓPICO DEDICADO] NAVI - próxima geração de GPUs da AMD

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A minha 5700xt agora esta file, nada a reclamar, tinha saido de uma gtx 1080, e qndo instalei ela, tive varios bugs, bug na curva de fãns, jogos fechando sozinho, entre outros, formatei o pc, atualizei tudo, direct x, C++, estou usando o ultimo driver, e tudo funciona, o freesync no meu LG 29 ultrawide esta perfeito, jogos lisos, o unico porem e barulho e temperatura, porém ja ate comprei um block da china, e enquanto nao chega deixei a curva um pouco alta, e onde moro é um calor do deserto do Sahara, vai ficar com a turbina ligada.
Que bom. Aqui estou com dúvidas sobre o freesync, minha TV de 120hz possui essa tecnologia, mas mesmo habilitando eu noto tearing na parte debaixo da tela (BFV driver 19.12.1) , não é algo que incomode tanto, mas parece que não está fazendo a sincronização devidamente correta. Pesquisei no Reddit e vi que um usuário estava com problema parecido, mas no caso utilizava monitor, aí mudou de hdmi para display port e resolveu. O meu cabo hdmi é até de alta potência e qualidade, marca Rosso, mas o problema é que as TVs não tem entrada display port, mesmo uma Qled da vida.
Obs: Esse tearing só é visto quando estou correndo na areia, matas ou pedras. De frente para as paredes não o vejo. Testei no COD e também não o vi, ainda falta testar por mais tempo.
 

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Ah sim, dá curtida em toda mensagem que fala mal da AMD e fica dando alfinetada em quem contribue com informação. Todo mundo percebeu amigo. Não adianta vir com papo do boteco HM. Não acreditei em nada haha.

@user101 nada da RX 5900 XT? Todos querem GPU top.
Infelizmente não tenho informação sobre a suposta RX 5900 XT (nem sei se o nome será esse).
Quem poderia ajudar é o dayllann mas está sumido. Tem este texto antigo dele que ele colocou nas notícias, veja lá:

"Falei disso tem meses, e a cada dia que passa se confirma cada vez mais: O atraso da AMD com suas GPUs em 7nm está tão grande que ela pode (e vai) acabar lançando a segunda geração antes mesmo de completar o line-up da primeira. O pior é que esse(s) chip(s) da primeira geração foi produzido e testado (Navi12), mas provavelmente não verá a luz do dia, enquanto que a Navi14 (RX5500 e RX5300) lançou mês passado e só chegará numa versão incompleta para desktop mês que vem! Afinal de contas, o chip completo foi reservado para a Apple e possivelmente será exclusivo (nada de RX5500 com 24 CUs/1536 SPs), tal qual as Vega16 e Vega20 foram.

Da mesma fonte que saiu a informação dessa notícia, [email protected], vem outras que ele jura serem 100% verídicas: A Navi10 terá outra versão cut-down, preenchendo a lacuna entre a RX5500 e RX5700. Já falei desse chip, possivelmente terá 28 CUs/1792 SPs e será 256bits, ocupará a faixa de desempenho da Vega56 (acima da GTX1660Ti mas com seu preço) e se chamará de RX5600(XT), MAS zero de informações concretas dela, informações concretas mesmo só sobre as Navi21, Navi22 e Navi23, que são justamente RDNA2. Inclusive a Navi21 já tem até tamanho do die confirmado, 505mm², o dobro da Navi10, então ou temos o dobro de CUs (80), ou o hardware dedicado ao RTRT ocupa algum espaço daí."


Navi 21 é RDNA2, assim terá suporte RT no hardware. Previsão de lançamento não deve ser rápido. Mas lembro que o coreteks comentou de um chip maior saindo depois da RX 5600 XT.
505mm2 não é pequeno para 7nm, então não vai ser barato. Pode começar a guardar (muito) dinheiro se pretender adquirir :)


Feliz Natal galera, desculpem as surtadas.
Feliz Natal para você e sua família (vale para todos que estão lendo) !
 
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Que bom. Aqui estou com dúvidas sobre o freesync, minha TV de 120hz possui essa tecnologia, mas mesmo habilitando eu noto tearing na parte debaixo da tela (BFV driver 19.12.1) , não é algo que incomode tanto, mas parece que não está fazendo a sincronização devidamente correta. Pesquisei no Reddit e vi que um usuário estava com problema parecido, mas no caso utilizava monitor, aí mudou de hdmi para display port e resolveu. O meu cabo hdmi é até de alta potência e qualidade, marca Rosso, mas o problema é que as TVs não tem entrada display port, mesmo uma Qled da vida.
Obs: Esse tearing só é visto quando estou correndo na areia, matas ou pedras. De frente para as paredes não o vejo. Testei no COD e também não o vi, ainda falta testar por mais tempo.
A minha dava direto tearing também, porém agora parou, uso cabo displayport, meu monitor é um lg UM69G, e com o ultomo driver parou, o que eu estava fazendo errado era deixar o vsync ligado no jogo, e a tecnologia enhanced sync ligada, ai dava o tearing, ficava horrivel.
 

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A minha dava direto tearing também, porém agora parou, uso cabo displayport, meu monitor é um lg UM69G, e com o ultomo driver parou, o que eu estava fazendo errado era deixar o vsync ligado no jogo, e a tecnologia enhanced sync ligada, ai dava o tearing, ficava horrivel.
Aqui eu desativou esses dois. Vou tentar utilizar o RTSS e o Frame Rate Target Control (Frtc) e limitar o fps a 119 nos dois. Vi essa dica no Reddit, quem sabe não funciona.
 

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Apesar das referencias serem bem ruidosas e esquentadinhas, eu particularmente acho elas lindas, carenagem toda em aluminio, backplate também em aluminio, agora esperar chegar meu block para customizar meu water cooler.
 

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Apesar das referencias serem bem ruidosas e esquentadinhas, eu particularmente acho elas lindas, carenagem toda em aluminio, backplate também em aluminio, agora esperar chegar meu block para customizar meu water cooler.

Muito bacana o teu setup mano, a blowerzona ficou muito estilosa.

Eu nem ligo para ruido, fico so com headset e o AC ligado direto, TJ aqui nao passa mais de 88C. lol

Ano que vem vou ver se me sobra um coro de rato para comprar um WC.

Parabéns.
 
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feliz natal galera a todos
Meu amigo, não estou no PC agora para ver se essa opção existe, mas vi no Reddit que fazendo esse procedimento, resolveu problema de tela preta e até de stuttering na 5700XT.
Tente acessar Painel de controle> Opções de energia> Alterar configurações do plano> Alterar configurações avançadas de energia> PCI Express> Gerenciamento de energia do estado do link e, se estiver definido como Economia moderada de energia, defina-o como Desligado.

Ver aí se tem essa opção, vou tentar depois em casa.

Dê uma lida aqui, tem outra opção que configuraram no software da Amd.
No adrenalina 2020 -> configurações / engrenagem -> guia de exibição -> substituições no canto inferior direito -> voltagem para 2.

 
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todas as informações e fontes até o momento:

* fontes da indústria confirmaram que a RX 5600 XT existe (gamersnexus)
* confirmado 6GB de memória GDDR6 (videocardz)
* memória GDDR6 é 12Gbps, RX 5500 XT tem 14Gbps (videocardz)
* não é chip Navi 14 full (videocardz)
* levando em conta a memória a placa de 6GB terá 192bit (videocardz)
* chip pode ser Navi 10LE (igorslab/komachi) ou Navi 12 (videocardz)
* modelos RX 5600 XT da Gigabyte e Powercolor apareceram na lista do CEE (komachi)
* modelos RX 5600 XT e RX 5600 da Asus e Asrock apareceram na lista do CEE (komachi)
* resultado do 3dmark indica um desempenho ~Vega 56 (reddit)
* configuração provável 3/4 da Navi 10 com 1920CUs (igorslab)
* anúncio provável no CES 2020 e depende da autorização da AMD (gamersnexus)
* disponibilidade provável na terceira semana de janeiro/2020 (igorslab)
* preço de 269 dólares, mas pode mudar (coreteks)
* RX 5600 não XT não é 100% de certeza que exista, mas espero que exista (eu :))

Modelo ITX seria bem vindo com certeza.



Na minha modesta opinião:

Relato em comunidade não representa o todo (estatística). Não existe metodologia e não tem como saber se a causa do problema é mesmo driver.
Mesmo assim o que está aí no spoiler (N bugs da Nvidia) é IGNORADO E DESCARTADO. Só vale relato negativo de driver da AMD.
Páginas atrás a tela preta com desligamento era problema com fonte e sua distribuição da potência. Sem relação com driver da AMD.
De qualquer forma, Nvidia e AMD tem problemas em drivers. Além disso AMD tem restrição de recursos (como tinha comentado).

A diferença é que a Nvidia tem MIND SHARE: tecnologia é indispensável, driver é perfeito e não tem bug, nunca esquenta, tudo funciona e por aí vai.
Mudar para AMD é último recurso para fugir do AUMENTO de preço da Nvidia. O engraçado é que (de certa forma) quem foge ajudou a Nvidia a aumentar.
E Nvidia como empresa está correta em usar isso a seu favor.

TECNOLOGIA, Nvidia cobra caro por isso. Qualquer feature tem hype gigantesco por parte da mídia e N fanboys. É ou não verdade ?
Vamos lembrar do passado e presente:

Nvidia 3D Vision -> descontinuado o suporte
Nvidia Physx ------> virou código aberto
Nvidia G-Sync ----> virou Freesync aberto (até módulo G-Sync em novo monitor vai suportar AMD)
Nvidia DLSS ------> na prática foi substituído pelo Freestyle (em resposta ao Radeon Image Sharpening da AMD)
Nvidia RT ---------> aguardando os próximos capítulos (chegada dos consoles)

Vocês lembram o que o pessoal falava ? O FUTURO É 3D VISION E PHYSX, NÃO COMPREM AMD.
Pois é, o pessoal acreditou em toda a propaganda (se f****) e gastou horrores no kit 3D Vision.
Hoje é a MESMA COISA, só muda o nome da tecnologia e o pessoal que gosta vai continuar se f****** e comprando.
Na realidade, usando o passado como referência, no final a tecnologia ou acaba morrendo ou vira aberto. Aí um novo ciclo começa.

DRIVER, outro fator que ajuda muito a Nvidia. Todo driver é maravilhoso e nunca, nunca dá problema.
Nvidia com bug ? Deve ser defeito na placa de vídeo ou é o jogo. Driver ? Impossível. AMD com bug ? Certeza absoluta que é o driver lixo.

Tecnologia/Driver: é tão excelente, tão perfeito, tão future proof, que a Nvidia resolveu AUMENTAR O PREÇO para ver se colava.
E obviamente deu certo !!! Ora, o CEO da Nvidia precisa aumentar sua coleção de jaquetas de couro ! Acordem pessoal :)

Por isso recomendo VOLTAR PARA NVIDIA se a pessoa faz parte desse público. A pessoa na verdade não se sente bem em usar AMD.
Mesmo que a AMD rode certinho, sempre existe desconfiança e preconceito: "dei uma chance para AMD", "última chance que a AMD tem comigo".

Se bobear a AMD deve ter entendido que não adianta ficar vendendo com menor margem de lucro.
Ora, aproximadamente ~70% preferem adquirir Nvidia, pouco importa se AMD CUSTA MENOS. Só lembrar da RX 470 vs GTX 1050 Ti/GTX 1060 3GB.
Então porque vender barato ? Melhor ter o maior lucro possível e investir pesado na divisão de CPUs.
O preço da RX 5600 XT vai mostrar qual é a direção da AMD. Se vier caro, já sabem........


EXEMPLOS DE FEEDBACK DO ÚLTIMO DRIVER 441.66:

Stupid update now causes stuttering in my games. Please release another driver as im not very tech smart and dont really know how to fix this issue
Resident Evil 7 is broken with driver 441.66 Black Screen and doens't start intro. Works with 441.41
Those drivers are always a pita Corrects 2 games and break 2 other ones.
All games unplayable, GPU at 100%, any fix? Ty
when i am going to do something higher my monitor automatically going off and on again in 2/3 sec...i am facing this problem after this new driver update 441.66
Im running nvidia driver version 441.66 . This error is still not fixed. Nobody from Nvidia or EA even reply or even care to fix this. Im also on fresh windows installation build 1909 (win10) and all drivers up to date. Only way to not get this error is to run nvidia driver version 417.35.
This error is totally random and only happens on nvidia rtx cards. Sometimes you can play whole day without single crash, sometimes you get 3-4 crashes in a row
441.66 keep crashing and corrupting picture in Firefox 71 on Windows 10.
Does anyone know what driver version for GTA V doesn't crash? I have 441.66 and around every 10 mins GTA V Online crashes for me. I have a i9900k and RTX 2080. GTA V game version 1.50
GTA V still crash on my laptop (in singleplayer mode, I still can't finish first mission) :( With the same error 0xc0000005.
You serious NVIDIA? Still GTA V crashes?
I'm continuing to have BSOD crashes while playing Witcher 3 - been continuing over multiple driver versions - using 441.66 and previously was using 436.30. Is there somewhere I can send the crash dmp file for your team?
Huge spike lags stutters when loading new areas in Far Cry 5 RTX 2070 SUPER / Ubisoft support told me to roll back to old Nvidia drivers... can you add some optimization please?
Driver 441.66 causes system monitoring tools such as MSI Afterburner and Throttlestop to constantly be "disconnected" and reconnect to the GPU; this presents by also showing the GPU temp as jumping from ~50 Degrees Celsius to 0 constantly.
My pc screen just went black after the update.. I had to somehow revert back to a previous version... This update almost broke my pc pls fix this
I just downloaded the Geforce Experience to get Shadowplay, and for some reason the Geforce Game Ready Driver installation is not working.
Hello there ever since the Update for Battlegrounds came out for WoW Classic my game has massive issues with stuttering to a point which is game breaking for me. Before this I used Vsync with out any issue but now the frame rates constantly dips blow 60 FPS into the mid 40s and I get these Microfreeze frame stutters. I have spent countless hours now trying to find a solution
Please fix Star Wars: Battlefront II crushing often after match is ending. Game crashed after game update from the October. Sometimes crashed when you exit the main game menu. Graphic card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 TURBO OC 8GB GDDR5X
Having issue with DOTA 2 & Borderlands before update i have very smooth fps Dota 2 : 100++ FPS and Borderlands 3 60++ but after update my fps drop to Dota : 2 : 30 ~ 40 FPS and Borderlands 3 : 20 ~ 40 FPS
Detroit become human keeps randomly crashing about every 10 min or so with 441.66 with the error VK_ERROR_DEVICE_LOST. With 441.41 i was able to play through almost the entire game with maybe 1 crash to desktop.
The only way I was able to play this amazing game was to use older and more stable drivers. I can run the game flawlessly on my old Win 7 machine with the drivers 416.81.
big issue with flickering anytime I click on a menu item in diablo and try to drag it... also seems to flicker just when I interact with any thing in a game... such as rotate my character in EoS in preview mode...
every since I updated my drivers my fps has went from a stabilized 350 to 160-250 and I just got my pc
Every since downloading 441.66, my FPS in World of Warcraft went from 150ish to 30ish in open world. How is that possible?
Since update my second monitor is flickering when i play fullscreen or borderless Windows
I had to role back to 441.41 from 441.66 due to major lag when i moved the mouse. My CPU temp even spiked a little. 441.41 is more stable with my GPU. Haven't had any issues with it since it came out Im running an RTX 2070 Super founders edition and using an i9-9900k
After the Nvidia game ready driver update yesterday (441.66) I started getting major lag every time I move the mouse in Mechwarrior 5. It feels like motion blur was added or something and at the moment I can't even play on the lowest settings (which removes most of the constant lag but the stutter stays).
Still have an issue with my 1080 - Destiny 2, HDR on in Windows, and on closing the game the Nvcontainer service goes insane and everything flickers and is basically unusable.
FFXIV Online displays at ultra low resolutions and is pretty much not playable after 441.66. RTX 2080. Was running smoothly on max settings before new driver.
Image looks way too dark in Resident Evil 2, no matter how much brightness I raise, it still appears to look too dark to see! Thus, I can barely see as I walk inside R.P.D. office!
Old game on steam called Restaurant Empire 2 keeps on giving me blue screen of death because Nvidia drivers thinks its Resident Evil 2 for some reason. Blue screen error message says "video_scheduler_internal_error".
Installed this update this morning and now Red Dead Redemption 2 has server pixelation issues no matter what resolution I run. My card is relatively old (GTX 750 TI) but I was able to run this game pretty well on low settings until this driver.. now its almost unplayable.. Not happy...
Driver kills Doom 2016 for me. Consistent crash on drivers beyond 436.48. Access violation (Code: 0xC0000005 Address: 0x00007FFF6A3E9E83 ) only occurs when updating driver beyond 436.48.
I suspect that the 441.66 driver reduces performance by almost 10%.
I use a rtx 2080 + i9 9900k. In 3dmark firestrike I had about 23800 points, since 441.66 it is less than 22000. no matter what I do.


N HOTFIXES em 2019:

Hotfix 417.58 Driver
This is GeForce Hotfix driver version 417.58 that addresses the following: Black screen when resuming from monitor sleep on some DisplayPort monitors; Windows 7: FPS drop when G-sync is used with V-sync in games; Shadow of the Tomb Raider: Fixes occasional application crash in DirectX 12 mode; Fixes black screen on BenQ XL2730 monitor using 144Hz refresh rate; Fixes lockup when resuming from sleep on MSI GT83 notebook
Hotfix 417.75 Driver
This is GeForce Hotfix driver version 417.75 that addresses the following: G-SYNC monitor may display random desktop flicker when an HDMI monitor is also connected to the same graphics card
Hotfix 425.11 Driver
This Hotfix driver addresses the following: Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Wildlands: Game crashes when accessing the inventory menu; Ark Survival Evolved: Fixes random crashes on GeForce RTX 20 series GPUs; Fixes corrupted graphics in games on ASUS ROG Strix GL702VS notebooks introduced in driver 419.35
Hotfix 430.53 Driver
Driver number 430.53 addresses reported issues of high CPU utilization (due to NVDisplay.Container.exe)
A number of fixes have also been introduced by this driver version. Namely, flickering observed when 3DMark Time Spy is launched; BeamNG application crash on games launch; SLI freezes in Shadow of the Tomb Raider; and monitor flickering on the desktop when videos are being played on a secondary monitor.
Hotfix 430.97 Driver
the drivers fix a game crash noticed in "Forza Horizon 4" when driving through tunnels. It also addresses a "Code 43" error noticed on machines powered by Intel "Sandy Bridge" processors
Hotfix 431.18 Driver
fixes BSODs on hibernation wake-up for ASUS' ASUS GL703GS/Asus GL502VML notebooks; game crashes or TDR on Shadow of the Tomb Raider when launching the game on Pascal GPUs; Shadow of the Tomb Raider's benchmark exiting abruptly should ray tracing be enabled; and flickering issues on Grand Theft Auto V when MSAA is enabled.
Hotfix 431.68 Driver
Hotfix corrects a bug where the mouse pointer renders incorrectly after exiting a game.
Hotfix 436.51 Driver
includes fixes specific for FIFA 19, FIFA 20 and Star Wars: Battlefront II, where these games would randomly crash to desktop; and also for Apex Legends, where the screen would intermittently flicker during gameplay.
Hotfix 441.34 Driver
Hotfix to its GeForce Software against glaring bugs that can't wait for the next driver release to be fixed. Hotfix 441.34 fixes a bug with "Red Dead Redemption 2" stalling on machines with 4-core and 6-core CPUs, when the Vulkan API is used. The drivers also fix a game crash with "Shadow of the Tomb Raider" launching in DirectX 12 mode.


HOTFIX 441.34 TEM CORREÇÕES PARA O DRIVER 441.20 QUE TINHA N BUGS, ALGUNS GRAVES:


NBA2k20 now crashes in the middle of games after updating to this driver... I run a RTX2070 Super
jedi fallen order crashes frequently after game micro-freeze when nvidia sharpen filter is applied via alt-f3
2x gtx2080 ti, sli enabled
Haven't tried this driver yet but the GRD for The Outer Worlds I get random crashing in that game on the Emerald Vale map when running SLI RTX 2080's.
Shadow of the Tomb Raider crashes during launch with this driver. DX12 only. Titan X Pascal
Shadow of the tomb raider crashes when dx12 is activated with this new version. Does not even start, no error message.
Disastrous driver, Shadow of the Tomb Raider does not work with DX12 and will crashes before starting.
Same issue as many others on Shadow of Tomb Raider. Will not launch with Direct X 12 enabled with this version of driver.
This driver has given me nothing but problems.
-All my games freeze and force me to hard reboot my pc. -Blue screens. My rig:
-i7 6700k
-EVGA RTX 2080 Super
-16GB Gskill RAM @3000Mhz
-ASUS Maximus viii formula motherboard.
Just downloaded the new driver and now Fallen Order stutters like hell!! It played just fine with the older driver
After update 441.20. Every games (GTAV BF1 PUBG etc.) is have FPS drop (Drop about 10-20 fps) and play feel game not smooth how can i fix this problem .
I've got constant crashes in Metro Exodus with this driver. When I tried switching the RTX on. When hitting escape after changing the resolution. And so on. No crashed whatsoever with the previous drivers.
Maintains memory leak issue with Forza Motorsport 7. Framerate steadily decreases while in race, becoming unplayable around 15 minutes in session. (Sub 20 fps) Happens in both Fullscreen and Windowed, regardless of settings.
Since I installed this driver I've been getting Driver Power State Failure blue screens when I open my laptop.
Same here, I tried to re-install like 5 version of drivers with the DDU, but either I end up in code 43 error (even on slightly older versions 43x.xx) or in BSOD with Driver Power State Failure on much older (but previously quite stable) drivers (362.00 i.e.).
Just started to experience problems with Eldar scrolls online. The game graphical part would lock up at random times. I exited the game and was able to reload it fine. Last night time I got a windows error with driver nvlddmkm and tracked it down to part of the driver load for the video driver for my GTX 770 card.
After the 441.20 update all my games are crashing not a single game is working correctly PC restarts after starting the game or i get error that game has crashed due to driver problem.
I’m having FPS issues with all my games. I have an i7 4770 and a GeForce gtx 1070. Games that used to run perfectly, like Destiny 2 now struggle to get 14-20fps. In the menus and title screens I’m getting high fps, but as soon as I enter the tower or load on to a planet my FPS goes to 20 or below.
Received an NVLDDMKM.SYS error while playing World of Warcraft with Windows 10 x64 1909, EVGA GTX 1080 FTW, and 441.20 drivers, then artifacts popped up and hard freeze. Had to reboot system.
Huge issue and im not even sure if its the update or not. ive got a GTX 2070 8gb and an i7 @ 2.20GHz Ive put more than 140 hours into destiny 2 with no problems other than wonderful bungie servers. Then last night after Updatting to 441.20 I began getting a lot of flickers on my screen almost like fire works to the point my game would crash. at first it wasn't bad I could play maybe 30 min with out flickering and now I cant even load into a public place for more than 2 min before the game crashing.
was having crashes in rocket league like twice a game, every game with this driver, no overclocking software on my computer for nvidia card
My rtx 2080ti is now now permanently at max memory clock and doesn’t clock down at all with this driver.
I can no longer open Shadow of the Tomb Raider after installing this driver update. The game will not launch pass the "press play" screen. After I press play the game crashes
Got 2 TDRs on the windows desktop with these drivers.
Random crash with this driver. Response.BucketId=LKD_0x141_Tdr:6_IMAGE_nvlddmkm.sys_Pascal
Driver 441.20: I tried it after installation and PC reboot on Resident Evil 2 Remake game. I switched to DX11 API the game loads but the image slowly become darker or brighter back and forth when I played RE2 Remake. (HDR was off). It acting the same on 441.08 and 441.12 driver. When I switched to DX12 API the game refuse to load and crashing with DX12 pipeline error blabla bla and I can't play it now on DX12 API. On driver 441.08 and 441.12 the game at least loads on DX12 API but on 441.20 driver the game is crashing on DX12 API. A attached the picture with DX12 API Error.
mouse cursor is gone after installing this driver update on RDR 2
rolled back to 441.12 mouse cursor back
441.12 borderless > vsync off mouse present > vsync on mouse cursor gone
441.20 borderless >vsync on or off mouse cursor gone
Devil May Cry V it bloody palace still not working everything is very very dark. nVIDIA FIX PLEASE!!! rollback to 431.60

Não tem essa de reclamar só porque é Amd.
Eu mesmo só uso processadores AMD. Pois tem bom desempenho. E valor justo.

O problema é pagar 2k em uma placa, e ter de ficar procurando o que pode estar ocasionando o mal desempenho, e demais problemas.
Eu quero comprar a placa, espetar e jogar.
Coisa que não está acontecendo com essa ultima geração de vga Amd.

Já a Nvidia, goste ou não. É espetar, instalar o driver e jogar.

Chega a ser bizarro ver as pessoas achando errado, alguém que adquire um produto e só quer usa-lo da forma que foi concebido para ser usado, Reclamar por não estar conseguindo fazer o básico. Que seria funcionar direito.

Processador Amd eu compro de olhos fechados.
Mas vga, a Rx 5700 ficou por dois dias na minha maquina e foi a ultima vga amd que compro.

Torço pela marca, mas não foi dessa vez que acertaram.
 

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Apesar das referencias serem bem ruidosas e esquentadinhas, eu particularmente acho elas lindas, carenagem toda em aluminio, backplate também em aluminio, agora esperar chegar meu block para customizar meu water cooler.
Como é o desempenho dessas fans da Aigo ? só falta eu comprar as Fans para o meu WC
 

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Como é o desempenho dessas fans da Aigo ? só falta eu comprar as Fans para o meu WC
O desempenho nao é la essas coisas, no meu caso queria mais pelo RGB, pois o original da Deepcool sao pretos, só que sao muito eficientes!
 
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O desempenho nao é la essas coisas, no meu caso queria mais pelo RGB, pois o original da Deepcool sao pretos, só que sao muito eficientes!
Eu queria uns com RGB, eficientes, silenciosos e baratos mas estou vendo q é impossível :feelbad:
 
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Eu queria uns com RGB, eficientes, silenciosos e baratos mas estou vendo q é impossível :feelbad:
Rss! Baratos com todos esses requisitos, dificl! Mais ps Aigo sao ótimos custo beneficio!
 

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Acabou de sair informação nova do Komachi sobre a RX 5600 XT :)

Gigabyte RX 5600 XT Gaming OC 6GB
base 1650MHz (referência 1605)
game 1795MHz (referência 1755)
boost até 1905MHz
memo 12000MHz
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O problema é pagar 2k em uma placa, e ter de ficar procurando o que pode estar ocasionando o mal desempenho, e demais problemas.
Eu quero comprar a placa, espetar e jogar.
Coisa que não está acontecendo com essa ultima geração de vga Amd.
Meu filho está usando uma RX 5700 sem problema e comprei logo no lançamento nos EUA.

Já a Nvidia, goste ou não. É espetar, instalar o driver e jogar.

Chega a ser bizarro ver as pessoas achando errado, alguém que adquire um produto e só quer usa-lo da forma que foi concebido para ser usado, Reclamar por não estar conseguindo fazer o básico. Que seria funcionar direito.

Processador Amd eu compro de olhos fechados.
Mas vga, a Rx 5700 ficou por dois dias na minha maquina e foi a ultima vga amd que compro.

Torço pela marca, mas não foi dessa vez que acertaram.
Concordo que AMD pode ter mais problemas. Mas Nvidia também tem bug, depende do hardware/software de cada um , veja lá:

Detalhe: como o texto é extenso e para não colocar no final, um dos meus filhos está usando uma GTX 1070 que sobrou do upgrade.
De acordo com ele, está enfrentando bug e teve que mudar o driver.

EXEMPLOS DE FEEDBACK DO ÚLTIMO DRIVER 441.66:

Stupid update now causes stuttering in my games. Please release another driver as im not very tech smart and dont really know how to fix this issue
again more issues than fixes... why would you release a driver like this, I don`t understand you people !!!
Resident Evil 7 is broken with driver 441.66 Black Screen and doens't start intro. Works with 441.41
Those drivers are always a pita Corrects 2 games and break 2 other ones.
Why no news or Update/Hotfix from Nvidia , as seems to be a lot of Problems on this forum re V441.66
All games unplayable, GPU at 100%, any fix? Ty
when i am going to do something higher my monitor automatically going off and on again in 2/3 sec...i am facing this problem after this new driver update 441.66
Im running nvidia driver version 441.66 . This error is still not fixed. Nobody from Nvidia or EA even reply or even care to fix this. Im also on fresh windows installation build 1909 (win10) and all drivers up to date. Only way to not get this error is to run nvidia driver version 417.35.
This error is totally random and only happens on nvidia rtx cards. Sometimes you can play whole day without single crash, sometimes you get 3-4 crashes in a row
441.66 keep crashing and corrupting picture in Firefox 71 on Windows 10.
Does anyone know what driver version for GTA V doesn't crash? I have 441.66 and around every 10 mins GTA V Online crashes for me. I have a i9900k and RTX 2080. GTA V game version 1.50
GTA V still crash on my laptop (in singleplayer mode, I still can't finish first mission) :( With the same error 0xc0000005.
You serious NVIDIA? Still GTA V crashes?
Same here, all my games are unplayable. Stuttering every were. I thought it could be a Steam problem also, but BF V on Origin has the same. So i've tried to reinstall Win10, make a clear system, all drivers up to date, but nothing happens.
The Division 2 keeps crashing.
Sure, games are BF 5, Arma 3, Total War Warhammer, Attila, Rome 2, Eurotruck2, F1 2018 … also in all these games are audio problems. sorry i don't no how to say it in english, it comes beside the stutter, it's stuttering like the graphic and sometimes much more. I have no idea what i could do...
Battlefield 5 (BFV) frequently crashes. Screen turns black and computer fans go full throttle.
I'm continuing to have BSOD crashes while playing Witcher 3 - been continuing over multiple driver versions - using 441.66 and previously was using 436.30. Is there somewhere I can send the crash dmp file for your team?
Huge spike lags stutters when loading new areas in Far Cry 5 RTX 2070 SUPER / Ubisoft support told me to roll back to old Nvidia drivers... can you add some optimization please?
Driver 441.66 causes system monitoring tools such as MSI Afterburner and Throttlestop to constantly be "disconnected" and reconnect to the GPU; this presents by also showing the GPU temp as jumping from ~50 Degrees Celsius to 0 constantly.
My pc screen just went black after the update.. I had to somehow revert back to a previous version... This update almost broke my pc pls fix this
I just downloaded the Geforce Experience to get Shadowplay, and for some reason the Geforce Game Ready Driver installation is not working.
Hello there ever since the Update for Battlegrounds came out for WoW Classic my game has massive issues with stuttering to a point which is game breaking for me. Before this I used Vsync with out any issue but now the frame rates constantly dips blow 60 FPS into the mid 40s and I get these Microfreeze frame stutters. I have spent countless hours now trying to find a solution
Please fix Star Wars: Battlefront II crushing often after match is ending. Game crashed after game update from the October. Sometimes crashed when you exit the main game menu. Graphic card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 TURBO OC 8GB GDDR5X
Having issue with DOTA 2 & Borderlands before update i have very smooth fps Dota 2 : 100++ FPS and Borderlands 3 60++ but after update my fps drop to Dota : 2 : 30 ~ 40 FPS and Borderlands 3 : 20 ~ 40 FPS
Detroit become human keeps randomly crashing about every 10 min or so with 441.66 with the error VK_ERROR_DEVICE_LOST. With 441.41 i was able to play through almost the entire game with maybe 1 crash to desktop.
The only way I was able to play this amazing game was to use older and more stable drivers. I can run the game flawlessly on my old Win 7 machine with the drivers 416.81.
big issue with flickering anytime I click on a menu item in diablo and try to drag it... also seems to flicker just when I interact with any thing in a game... such as rotate my character in EoS in preview mode...
every since I updated my drivers my fps has went from a stabilized 350 to 160-250 and I just got my pc
Every since downloading 441.66, my FPS in World of Warcraft went from 150ish to 30ish in open world. How is that possible?
Since update my second monitor is flickering when i play fullscreen or borderless Windows
I had to role back to 441.41 from 441.66 due to major lag when i moved the mouse. My CPU temp even spiked a little. 441.41 is more stable with my GPU. Haven't had any issues with it since it came out Im running an RTX 2070 Super founders edition and using an i9-9900k
After the Nvidia game ready driver update yesterday (441.66) I started getting major lag every time I move the mouse in Mechwarrior 5. It feels like motion blur was added or something and at the moment I can't even play on the lowest settings (which removes most of the constant lag but the stutter stays).
Still have an issue with my 1080 - Destiny 2, HDR on in Windows, and on closing the game the Nvcontainer service goes insane and everything flickers and is basically unusable.
FFXIV Online displays at ultra low resolutions and is pretty much not playable after 441.66. RTX 2080. Was running smoothly on max settings before new driver.
Image looks way too dark in Resident Evil 2, no matter how much brightness I raise, it still appears to look too dark to see! Thus, I can barely see as I walk inside R.P.D. office!
Image Sharpening bug on Windows 10 version 1909. All game launchers gets the sharpening re-applied on most parts of the UI when only sections update.
I've got screen flickering on and off while playing games and watching youtube. Anyone else getting this as well?
Old game on steam called Restaurant Empire 2 keeps on giving me blue screen of death because Nvidia drivers thinks its Resident Evil 2 for some reason. Blue screen error message says "video_scheduler_internal_error".
Installed this update this morning and now Red Dead Redemption 2 has server pixelation issues no matter what resolution I run. My card is relatively old (GTX 750 TI) but I was able to run this game pretty well on low settings until this driver.. now its almost unplayable.. Not happy...
I have been having trouble with all drivers since 441.12. Any driver after that causes some (not all) of my games to have frame rate spikes and drops. for example, COD Modern Warfare (even in the menus) the frame rate should be sat around 70 - 75 on my graphical settings, with any driver after 441.12 the rate drops to the 20s and fluctuates wildly from the 20s to the 70s and back again making gaming impossible. Also, Red Dead Redemption 2, on any of the newer drivers, I am getting what looks to be frames of around 25 despite my frame counter stating otherwise (40 - 60 in game area dependent). It is driving me crazy, I just cannot use any of these new drivers as it has such a negative effect on my games. I have tried numerous clean installs on different drivers but 441.12 is the most recent one that causes me the least amount of issues.
Driver kills Doom 2016 for me. Consistent crash on drivers beyond 436.48. Access violation (Code: 0xC0000005 Address: 0x00007FFF6A3E9E83 ) only occurs when updating driver beyond 436.48.
I suspect that the 441.66 driver reduces performance by almost 10%.
Repost: "Wrong output range (full range instead of limited, not reflected in nVidia Control Panel UI) after resume from sleep still happens with this driver" with GTX 1070 in Windows 10 1909. Last and still working driver is 431.60 - so it can't be a Windows issue. Bug appeared with 436.02. Following workaround works "[...] go to desktop color settings in nv cp and switch content type to any other settings, hit apply, then cancel, and the output levels correct themselves." but games or application that use fullscreen mode (not windowed borderless) will trigger this bug too. It's not related to Windows sleep mode or standby. Any resolution change will cause the issue for all applications, games and Windows until you restart your PC or use the workaround.
I use a rtx 2080 + i9 9900k. In 3dmark firestrike I had about 23800 points, since 441.66 it is less than 22000. no matter what I do.


N HOTFIXES em 2019:

Hotfix 417.58 Driver
This is GeForce Hotfix driver version 417.58 that addresses the following: Black screen when resuming from monitor sleep on some DisplayPort monitors; Windows 7: FPS drop when G-sync is used with V-sync in games; Shadow of the Tomb Raider: Fixes occasional application crash in DirectX 12 mode; Fixes black screen on BenQ XL2730 monitor using 144Hz refresh rate; Fixes lockup when resuming from sleep on MSI GT83 notebook
Hotfix 417.75 Driver
This is GeForce Hotfix driver version 417.75 that addresses the following: G-SYNC monitor may display random desktop flicker when an HDMI monitor is also connected to the same graphics card
Hotfix 425.11 Driver
This Hotfix driver addresses the following: Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Wildlands: Game crashes when accessing the inventory menu; Ark Survival Evolved: Fixes random crashes on GeForce RTX 20 series GPUs; Fixes corrupted graphics in games on ASUS ROG Strix GL702VS notebooks introduced in driver 419.35
Hotfix 430.53 Driver
Driver number 430.53 addresses reported issues of high CPU utilization (due to NVDisplay.Container.exe)
A number of fixes have also been introduced by this driver version. Namely, flickering observed when 3DMark Time Spy is launched; BeamNG application crash on games launch; SLI freezes in Shadow of the Tomb Raider; and monitor flickering on the desktop when videos are being played on a secondary monitor.
Hotfix 430.97 Driver
the drivers fix a game crash noticed in "Forza Horizon 4" when driving through tunnels. It also addresses a "Code 43" error noticed on machines powered by Intel "Sandy Bridge" processors
Hotfix 431.18 Driver
fixes BSODs on hibernation wake-up for ASUS' ASUS GL703GS/Asus GL502VML notebooks; game crashes or TDR on Shadow of the Tomb Raider when launching the game on Pascal GPUs; Shadow of the Tomb Raider's benchmark exiting abruptly should ray tracing be enabled; and flickering issues on Grand Theft Auto V when MSAA is enabled.
Hotfix 431.68 Driver
Hotfix corrects a bug where the mouse pointer renders incorrectly after exiting a game.
Hotfix 436.51 Driver
includes fixes specific for FIFA 19, FIFA 20 and Star Wars: Battlefront II, where these games would randomly crash to desktop; and also for Apex Legends, where the screen would intermittently flicker during gameplay.
Hotfix 441.34 Driver
Hotfix to its GeForce Software against glaring bugs that can't wait for the next driver release to be fixed. Hotfix 441.34 fixes a bug with "Red Dead Redemption 2" stalling on machines with 4-core and 6-core CPUs, when the Vulkan API is used. The drivers also fix a game crash with "Shadow of the Tomb Raider" launching in DirectX 12 mode.


HOTFIX 441.34 TEM CORREÇÕES PARA O DRIVER 441.20 QUE TINHA N BUGS, ALGUNS GRAVES:


NBA2k20 now crashes in the middle of games after updating to this driver... I run a RTX2070 Super
jedi fallen order crashes frequently after game micro-freeze when nvidia sharpen filter is applied via alt-f3
2x gtx2080 ti, sli enabled
Haven't tried this driver yet but the GRD for The Outer Worlds I get random crashing in that game on the Emerald Vale map when running SLI RTX 2080's.
Shadow of the Tomb Raider crashes during launch with this driver. DX12 only. Titan X Pascal
Shadow of the tomb raider crashes when dx12 is activated with this new version. Does not even start, no error message.
Disastrous driver, Shadow of the Tomb Raider does not work with DX12 and will crashes before starting.
Same issue as many others on Shadow of Tomb Raider. Will not launch with Direct X 12 enabled with this version of driver.
This driver has given me nothing but problems.
-All my games freeze and force me to hard reboot my pc. -Blue screens. My rig:
-i7 6700k
-EVGA RTX 2080 Super
-16GB Gskill RAM @3000Mhz
-ASUS Maximus viii formula motherboard.
Just downloaded the new driver and now Fallen Order stutters like hell!! It played just fine with the older driver
After update 441.20. Every games (GTAV BF1 PUBG etc.) is have FPS drop (Drop about 10-20 fps) and play feel game not smooth how can i fix this problem .
I've got constant crashes in Metro Exodus with this driver. When I tried switching the RTX on. When hitting escape after changing the resolution. And so on. No crashed whatsoever with the previous drivers.
Maintains memory leak issue with Forza Motorsport 7. Framerate steadily decreases while in race, becoming unplayable around 15 minutes in session. (Sub 20 fps) Happens in both Fullscreen and Windowed, regardless of settings.
Since I installed this driver I've been getting Driver Power State Failure blue screens when I open my laptop.
Same here, I tried to re-install like 5 version of drivers with the DDU, but either I end up in code 43 error (even on slightly older versions 43x.xx) or in BSOD with Driver Power State Failure on much older (but previously quite stable) drivers (362.00 i.e.).
Just started to experience problems with Eldar scrolls online. The game graphical part would lock up at random times. I exited the game and was able to reload it fine. Last night time I got a windows error with driver nvlddmkm and tracked it down to part of the driver load for the video driver for my GTX 770 card.
After the 441.20 update all my games are crashing not a single game is working correctly PC restarts after starting the game or i get error that game has crashed due to driver problem.
I’m having FPS issues with all my games. I have an i7 4770 and a GeForce gtx 1070. Games that used to run perfectly, like Destiny 2 now struggle to get 14-20fps. In the menus and title screens I’m getting high fps, but as soon as I enter the tower or load on to a planet my FPS goes to 20 or below.
Received an NVLDDMKM.SYS error while playing World of Warcraft with Windows 10 x64 1909, EVGA GTX 1080 FTW, and 441.20 drivers, then artifacts popped up and hard freeze. Had to reboot system.
Huge issue and im not even sure if its the update or not. ive got a GTX 2070 8gb and an i7 @ 2.20GHz Ive put more than 140 hours into destiny 2 with no problems other than wonderful bungie servers. Then last night after Updatting to 441.20 I began getting a lot of flickers on my screen almost like fire works to the point my game would crash. at first it wasn't bad I could play maybe 30 min with out flickering and now I cant even load into a public place for more than 2 min before the game crashing.
was having crashes in rocket league like twice a game, every game with this driver, no overclocking software on my computer for nvidia card
My rtx 2080ti is now now permanently at max memory clock and doesn’t clock down at all with this driver.
I can no longer open Shadow of the Tomb Raider after installing this driver update. The game will not launch pass the "press play" screen. After I press play the game crashes
Got 2 TDRs on the windows desktop with these drivers.
Random crash with this driver. Response.BucketId=LKD_0x141_Tdr:6_IMAGE_nvlddmkm.sys_Pascal
Driver 441.20: I tried it after installation and PC reboot on Resident Evil 2 Remake game. I switched to DX11 API the game loads but the image slowly become darker or brighter back and forth when I played RE2 Remake. (HDR was off). It acting the same on 441.08 and 441.12 driver. When I switched to DX12 API the game refuse to load and crashing with DX12 pipeline error blabla bla and I can't play it now on DX12 API. On driver 441.08 and 441.12 the game at least loads on DX12 API but on 441.20 driver the game is crashing on DX12 API. A attached the picture with DX12 API Error.
mouse cursor is gone after installing this driver update on RDR 2
rolled back to 441.12 mouse cursor back
441.12 borderless > vsync off mouse present > vsync on mouse cursor gone
441.20 borderless >vsync on or off mouse cursor gone
Devil May Cry V it bloody palace still not working everything is very very dark. nVIDIA FIX PLEASE!!! rollback to 431.60
 
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Apesar das referencias serem bem ruidosas e esquentadinhas, eu particularmente acho elas lindas, carenagem toda em aluminio, backplate também em aluminio, agora esperar chegar meu block para customizar meu water cooler.
Teu setup tá bem parecido com o meu. Esse P3 eh show mesmo.
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Teu setup tá bem parecido com o meu. Esse P3 eh show mesmo.
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Teu setup tá bem parecido com o meu. Esse P3 eh show mesmo.
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Parabens! Seu setup é lindo também! Eu curto de mais a linha Core da Thermaltake!
 

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Modelos RX 5600 XT da MSI aparecem na lista do CEE (komachi) :




Ótima notícia !!!
RX 5500 XT single fan da Powercolor tem fan stop. Excelente opção para quem prefere o formato :)
Além disso, outro modelo dual fan será lançado, simplificado em comparação com Red Dragon. Como o custo de produção é menor, deve vir com valor + aceitável.

RX 5500 XT 8GB Red Dragon
RX 5500 XT 8GB
RX 5500 XT 4GB Mini

 
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Apesar das referencias serem bem ruidosas e esquentadinhas, eu particularmente acho elas lindas, carenagem toda em aluminio, backplate também em aluminio, agora esperar chegar meu block para customizar meu water cooler.
Futuramente estou querendo comprar um gabinete, mas terá que caber o meu DeepCool Lucifer V2 (monstrinho), esse gabinete paralece bem largo, acho que cabe ele, qual é o modelo desse gabinete e poderia me informar a largura dele? Se não me engano o deepcool tem 16cm de altura.
 

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Futuramente estou querendo comprar um gabinete, mas terá que caber o meu DeepCool Lucifer V2 (monstrinho), esse gabinete paralece bem largo, acho que cabe ele, qual é o modelo desse gabinete e poderia me informar a largura dele? Se não me engano o deepcool tem 16cm de altura.
Esse é o Thermaltake Core P3! Tem o Core P5, que é bem maior, da uma pesquisada do Thermaltake core P5!
 
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Não tem essa de reclamar só porque é Amd.
Eu mesmo só uso processadores AMD. Pois tem bom desempenho. E valor justo.

O problema é pagar 2k em uma placa, e ter de ficar procurando o que pode estar ocasionando o mal desempenho, e demais problemas.
Eu quero comprar a placa, espetar e jogar.
Coisa que não está acontecendo com essa ultima geração de vga Amd.

Já a Nvidia, goste ou não. É espetar, instalar o driver e jogar.

Chega a ser bizarro ver as pessoas achando errado, alguém que adquire um produto e só quer usa-lo da forma que foi concebido para ser usado, Reclamar por não estar conseguindo fazer o básico. Que seria funcionar direito.

Processador Amd eu compro de olhos fechados.
Mas vga, a Rx 5700 ficou por dois dias na minha maquina e foi a ultima vga amd que compro.

Torço pela marca, mas não foi dessa vez que acertaram.
RTX 2080 Ti também teve problemas, e bem pior.
 
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Alguém sabe se uma EVGA 600b para uma rx 5700 xt pulse é o suficiente? fiz os testes e ta dando 458 W de consumo o sistema completo, acontece que tava jogando Red dead redemption 2 e deu um crash absurdo que ate reiniciou o windows, o rdr2 ta com problemas de crashar mas nunca tinha dado de reiniciar o windows, ai to meio com receio que possa ser da fonte, o que vcs acham?
 

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Alguém sabe se uma EVGA 600b para uma rx 5700 xt pulse é o suficiente? fiz os testes e ta dando 458 W de consumo o sistema completo, acontece que tava jogando Red dead redemption 2 e deu um crash absurdo que ate reiniciou o windows, o rdr2 ta com problemas de crashar mas nunca tinha dado de reiniciar o windows, ai to meio com receio que possa ser da fonte, o que vcs acham?
Em tese é suficiente sim.

Eu já tive crash também de reiniciar o pc, mas foi travamento de vídeo, causado por driver. Eu faria mais testes, trocando drivers por exemplo, pra ver se o problema persiste. Senão você gasta com a troca de fonte e problema continua.
 
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Alguém sabe se uma EVGA 600b para uma rx 5700 xt pulse é o suficiente? fiz os testes e ta dando 458 W de consumo o sistema completo, acontece que tava jogando Red dead redemption 2 e deu um crash absurdo que ate reiniciou o windows, o rdr2 ta com problemas de crashar mas nunca tinha dado de reiniciar o windows, ai to meio com receio que possa ser da fonte, o que vcs acham?
Eu tenho uma Corsair VS600W, ela tá dando conta da Nitro.

Uma dúvida: Tem acontecido aqui as vezes, é de um jogo fechar do nada assim que início e o menu do 19.12.1 nem ser exibido mais (fica crashado) , mas mesmo assim o jogo funciona normal na segunda tentativa.
 
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