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outro review: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3783
Caraca!!! a gtx480 tomou pau da 5870 e da gtx295 no 3d vantage!!!
E a gtx470 perdeu pra 5850 também...
Imagina usando over... as 58XX vão subir mais ainda a diferença...
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-470-480-review/30
E a gtx470 perdeu pra 5850 também...
Imagina usando over... as 58XX vão subir mais ainda a diferença...
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-470-480-review/30
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Anandtech
Final Words
To wrap things up, let’s start with the obvious: NVIDIA has reclaimed their crown – they have the fastest single-GPU card. The GTX 480 is between 10 and 15% faster than the Radeon 5870 depending on the resolution, giving it a comfortable lead over AMD’s best single-GPU card.
With that said, we have to take pause for a wildcard: AMD’s 2GB Radeon 5870, which will be launching soon. We know the 1GB 5870 is RAM-limited at times, and while it’s unlikely more RAM on its own will be enough to make up the performance difference, we can’t fully rule that out until we have the benchmarks we need. If the GTX 480 doesn’t continue to end up being the fastest single-GPU card out there, we’ll be surprised.
The best news in this respect is that you’ll have time to soak in the information. With a retail date of April 12th, if AMD launches their card within the next couple of weeks you’ll have a chance to look at the performance of both cards and decide which to get without getting blindsided.
On a longer term note, we’re left wondering just how long NVIDIA can maintain this lead. If a 2GB Radeon isn’t enough to break the GTX 480, how about a higher clocked 5800 series part? AMD has had 6 months to refine and respin as necessary; with their partners already producing factory overclocked cards up to 900MHz, it’s too early to count AMD out if they really want to do some binning in order to come up with a faster Radeon 5800.
Meanwhile let’s talk about the other factors: price, power, and noise. At $500 the GTX 480 is the world’s fastest single-GPU card, but it’s not a value proposition. The price gap between it and the Radeon 5870 is well above the current performance gap, but this has always been true about the high-end. Bigger than price though is the tradeoff for going with the GTX 480 and its much bigger GPU – it’s hotter, it’s noisier, and it’s more power hungry, all for 10-15% more performance. If you need the fastest thing you can get then the choice is clear, otherwise you’ll have some thinking to decide what you want and what you’re willing to live with in return.
Moving on, we have the GTX 470 to discuss. It’s not NVIDIA’s headliner so it’s easy to get lost in the shuffle. With a price right between the 5850 and 5870, it delivers performance right where you’d expect it to be. At 5-10% slower than the 5870 on average, it’s actually a straightforward value proposition: you get 90-95% of the performance for around 87% of the price. It’s not a huge bargain, but it’s competitively priced against the 5870. Against the 5850 this is less true where it’s a mere 2-8% faster, but this isn’t unusual for cards above $300 – the best values are rarely found there. The 5850 is the bargain hunter’s card, otherwise if you can spend more pick a price and you’ll find your card. Just keep in mind that the GTX 470 is still going to be louder/hotter than any 5800 series card, so there are tradeoffs to make, and we imagine most people would err towards the side of the cooler Radeon cards.
With that out of the way, let’s take a moment to discuss Fermi’s future prospects. Fermi’s compute-heavy and tessellation-heavy design continues to interest us but home users won’t find an advantage to that design today. This is a card that bets on the future and we don’t have our crystal ball. With some good consumer-oriented GPGPU programs and developers taking up variable tessellation NVIDIA could get a lot out of this card, or if that fails to happen they could get less than they hoped for. All we can do is sit and watch – it’s much too early to place our bets.
As for NVIDIA’s ecosystem, the situation hasn’t changed much from 2009. NVIDIA continues to offer interesting technologies like PhysX, 3D Vision, and CUDA’s wider GPGPU application library. But none of these are compelling enough on their own, they’re merely the icing on the cake. But if you’re already in NVIDIA’s ecosystem then the choice seems clear: NVIDIA has a DX11 card ready to go that lets you have your cake and eat it too.
Finally, as we asked in the title, was it worth the wait? No, probably not. A 15% faster single-GPU card is appreciated and we’re excited to see both AMD and NVIDIA once again on competitive footing with each other, but otherwise with much of Fermi’s enhanced abilities still untapped, we’re going to be waiting far longer for a proper resolution anyhow. For now we’re just happy to finally have Fermi, so that we can move on to the next step.
Final Words
To wrap things up, let’s start with the obvious: NVIDIA has reclaimed their crown – they have the fastest single-GPU card. The GTX 480 is between 10 and 15% faster than the Radeon 5870 depending on the resolution, giving it a comfortable lead over AMD’s best single-GPU card.
With that said, we have to take pause for a wildcard: AMD’s 2GB Radeon 5870, which will be launching soon. We know the 1GB 5870 is RAM-limited at times, and while it’s unlikely more RAM on its own will be enough to make up the performance difference, we can’t fully rule that out until we have the benchmarks we need. If the GTX 480 doesn’t continue to end up being the fastest single-GPU card out there, we’ll be surprised.
The best news in this respect is that you’ll have time to soak in the information. With a retail date of April 12th, if AMD launches their card within the next couple of weeks you’ll have a chance to look at the performance of both cards and decide which to get without getting blindsided.
On a longer term note, we’re left wondering just how long NVIDIA can maintain this lead. If a 2GB Radeon isn’t enough to break the GTX 480, how about a higher clocked 5800 series part? AMD has had 6 months to refine and respin as necessary; with their partners already producing factory overclocked cards up to 900MHz, it’s too early to count AMD out if they really want to do some binning in order to come up with a faster Radeon 5800.
Meanwhile let’s talk about the other factors: price, power, and noise. At $500 the GTX 480 is the world’s fastest single-GPU card, but it’s not a value proposition. The price gap between it and the Radeon 5870 is well above the current performance gap, but this has always been true about the high-end. Bigger than price though is the tradeoff for going with the GTX 480 and its much bigger GPU – it’s hotter, it’s noisier, and it’s more power hungry, all for 10-15% more performance. If you need the fastest thing you can get then the choice is clear, otherwise you’ll have some thinking to decide what you want and what you’re willing to live with in return.
Moving on, we have the GTX 470 to discuss. It’s not NVIDIA’s headliner so it’s easy to get lost in the shuffle. With a price right between the 5850 and 5870, it delivers performance right where you’d expect it to be. At 5-10% slower than the 5870 on average, it’s actually a straightforward value proposition: you get 90-95% of the performance for around 87% of the price. It’s not a huge bargain, but it’s competitively priced against the 5870. Against the 5850 this is less true where it’s a mere 2-8% faster, but this isn’t unusual for cards above $300 – the best values are rarely found there. The 5850 is the bargain hunter’s card, otherwise if you can spend more pick a price and you’ll find your card. Just keep in mind that the GTX 470 is still going to be louder/hotter than any 5800 series card, so there are tradeoffs to make, and we imagine most people would err towards the side of the cooler Radeon cards.
With that out of the way, let’s take a moment to discuss Fermi’s future prospects. Fermi’s compute-heavy and tessellation-heavy design continues to interest us but home users won’t find an advantage to that design today. This is a card that bets on the future and we don’t have our crystal ball. With some good consumer-oriented GPGPU programs and developers taking up variable tessellation NVIDIA could get a lot out of this card, or if that fails to happen they could get less than they hoped for. All we can do is sit and watch – it’s much too early to place our bets.
As for NVIDIA’s ecosystem, the situation hasn’t changed much from 2009. NVIDIA continues to offer interesting technologies like PhysX, 3D Vision, and CUDA’s wider GPGPU application library. But none of these are compelling enough on their own, they’re merely the icing on the cake. But if you’re already in NVIDIA’s ecosystem then the choice seems clear: NVIDIA has a DX11 card ready to go that lets you have your cake and eat it too.
Finally, as we asked in the title, was it worth the wait? No, probably not. A 15% faster single-GPU card is appreciated and we’re excited to see both AMD and NVIDIA once again on competitive footing with each other, but otherwise with much of Fermi’s enhanced abilities still untapped, we’re going to be waiting far longer for a proper resolution anyhow. For now we’re just happy to finally have Fermi, so that we can move on to the next step.
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Eraldo Freitas
Usuário com assinatura bloqueada
ahahaah.. isso não é novidade... a 4870x2 tbm bate as GTX295.. bench usa uma forma diferente de trabalhar das vgas...
Nesse review mostra a gtx295 batendo legal na 4870X2...
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-470-480-review/30
HardOCP
Final Words
We see no reason to purchase a GeForce GTX 470. It provides no gameplay advantages compared to the competition, and will actually end up costing you more power and dollars for the exact same performance you can get with the Radeon HD 5850. Factor in the power consumption, and it doesn’t seem worth it. If you have an HD 5850, stick with it, the GTX 470 is not an upgrade. If you are contemplating a great performing graphics card, for a decent price, the HD 5850 is still the best choice.
The GeForce GTX 480 is more relevant in the market but it hasn’t exactly come out of the gate wowing us with performance either. There are some games where it is faster than the Radeon HD 5870, and there are some games where it is even with the Radeon HD 5870. Factor in the cost and power, and include the ability to run Eyefinity on a single GPU, the Radeon HD 5870, to us, seems like the better value for the gamer right now.
GeForce GTX 480 SLI clearly provides a better gameplay experience than the dual-GPU Radeon HD 5970. In the dual-GPU competition, we felt GeForce GTX 480 SLI provided the best experience, but it will certainly cost you. It will cost you a lot of money, and it will cost you by requiring a high powered hardcore enthusiast system to support it, again costing you more money. If you are a gamer, and you want the best performance you can get right now, GeForce GTX 480 SLI is where it is at. Just beware of all the consequences of running such a configuration. We are frothing at the bit to get into some NV Surround gaming with a GTX 480 SLI setup!
Overall, GF100 hasn’t exactly delivered. I think we were all hoping it would provide a substantial gameplay improvement over the Radeon HD 5870 and Radeon HD 5850. Competition is good, and we would like to see it. Unfortunately, our experiences weren’t as positive as we had wanted. When you break it all down to cost, power and performance, the GTX 480 and GTX 470 don’t measure up. The only saving grace is the awesomeness of GTX 480 SLI, but it comes at some high costs.
That all said, the GF100 is not a 5800 or 2900 redo, but it sure makes you think about it.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/03/26/nvidia_fermi_gtx_470_480_sli_review
Final Words
We see no reason to purchase a GeForce GTX 470. It provides no gameplay advantages compared to the competition, and will actually end up costing you more power and dollars for the exact same performance you can get with the Radeon HD 5850. Factor in the power consumption, and it doesn’t seem worth it. If you have an HD 5850, stick with it, the GTX 470 is not an upgrade. If you are contemplating a great performing graphics card, for a decent price, the HD 5850 is still the best choice.
The GeForce GTX 480 is more relevant in the market but it hasn’t exactly come out of the gate wowing us with performance either. There are some games where it is faster than the Radeon HD 5870, and there are some games where it is even with the Radeon HD 5870. Factor in the cost and power, and include the ability to run Eyefinity on a single GPU, the Radeon HD 5870, to us, seems like the better value for the gamer right now.
GeForce GTX 480 SLI clearly provides a better gameplay experience than the dual-GPU Radeon HD 5970. In the dual-GPU competition, we felt GeForce GTX 480 SLI provided the best experience, but it will certainly cost you. It will cost you a lot of money, and it will cost you by requiring a high powered hardcore enthusiast system to support it, again costing you more money. If you are a gamer, and you want the best performance you can get right now, GeForce GTX 480 SLI is where it is at. Just beware of all the consequences of running such a configuration. We are frothing at the bit to get into some NV Surround gaming with a GTX 480 SLI setup!
Overall, GF100 hasn’t exactly delivered. I think we were all hoping it would provide a substantial gameplay improvement over the Radeon HD 5870 and Radeon HD 5850. Competition is good, and we would like to see it. Unfortunately, our experiences weren’t as positive as we had wanted. When you break it all down to cost, power and performance, the GTX 480 and GTX 470 don’t measure up. The only saving grace is the awesomeness of GTX 480 SLI, but it comes at some high costs.
That all said, the GF100 is not a 5800 or 2900 redo, but it sure makes you think about it.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/03/26/nvidia_fermi_gtx_470_480_sli_review
Belo review da Guru3D pra variar.
Gostei do que ví e ficou dentro do que eu esperava em desempenho mas me preocupou a temperatura e consumo, dá a impressão que a placa está mesmo no limite.
O único fail foi mesmo a demora e, apesar de não apostar muito em drivers milagrosos, acho que ainda tem espaço para muitos ajustes.
Outra boa notícia foi que a Nvidia teve que baixar a bola e entrar na briga pelo preço logo no lançamento, um fato inédito.
A próxima revisão do Fermi deverá chegar destruindo tudo e mais um pouco, resta saber se até la a Ati já terá alguma single para competir com elas pois a melhor placa do mundo (HD5970) ainda tem seu nome.
Estou de olho numa GTX470, a melhor opção no meu caso, o jeito é esperar para ver quando teremos uma por aqui e quanto ficará.
Gostei do que ví e ficou dentro do que eu esperava em desempenho mas me preocupou a temperatura e consumo, dá a impressão que a placa está mesmo no limite.
O único fail foi mesmo a demora e, apesar de não apostar muito em drivers milagrosos, acho que ainda tem espaço para muitos ajustes.
Outra boa notícia foi que a Nvidia teve que baixar a bola e entrar na briga pelo preço logo no lançamento, um fato inédito.
A próxima revisão do Fermi deverá chegar destruindo tudo e mais um pouco, resta saber se até la a Ati já terá alguma single para competir com elas pois a melhor placa do mundo (HD5970) ainda tem seu nome.
Estou de olho numa GTX470, a melhor opção no meu caso, o jeito é esperar para ver quando teremos uma por aqui e quanto ficará.
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A Nvidia esta de Parabens o fermi será uma chip mto bom quando passarem ele para o processo de 28-32nm final do ano ou inicio de 2011.
Resumo: Anandtech
Disponibilidade: With a retail date of April 12th.
Desempenho: The GTX 480 is between 10 and 15% faster than the Radeon 5870 depending on the resolution.
Against the 5850 this is less true where it’s a mere 2-8% faster. ( a gtx 470).
Preços: 500,00 Dolares GTX 480 - 350,00 Dolares GTX 470
Diferenciais: As for NVIDIA’s ecosystem, the situation hasn’t changed much from 2009. NVIDIA continues to offer interesting technologies like PhysX, 3D Vision, and CUDA’s wider GPGPU application library.
Contras: Consumo alto, SLI só com fonte de 1000W
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Resumo: Anandtech
Disponibilidade: With a retail date of April 12th.
Desempenho: The GTX 480 is between 10 and 15% faster than the Radeon 5870 depending on the resolution.
Against the 5850 this is less true where it’s a mere 2-8% faster. ( a gtx 470).
Preços: 500,00 Dolares GTX 480 - 350,00 Dolares GTX 470
Diferenciais: As for NVIDIA’s ecosystem, the situation hasn’t changed much from 2009. NVIDIA continues to offer interesting technologies like PhysX, 3D Vision, and CUDA’s wider GPGPU application library.
Contras: Consumo alto, SLI só com fonte de 1000W
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Esperava mais dessa placa , principalmente depois de 6 meses de "atraso". Fora que a placa esquenta muito e consome muito mesmo... ah tem o preço alto ainda , cerca de 100 dollares mais caro que a 5870 por uma performance de 5% a 10% melhor. Bom , acho que o único atrativo da Nvdia nessa geração é o 3DVision.
Repetindo o que eu falei antes ...
A GTX 480 seria um monstro se fosse em 28-32 nm. A versão atual é somente boa, pois o consumo matou a placa. Consome 130 W (45%) a mais que a HD 5870 por 15 % de desempenho.
Consumir mais que a HD 5970 é um absurdo.
Já sabemos que dual gpu de GTX 4XX só com um milagre da Nvidia, ou na próxima revisão ...
A GTX 480 seria um monstro se fosse em 28-32 nm. A versão atual é somente boa, pois o consumo matou a placa. Consome 130 W (45%) a mais que a HD 5870 por 15 % de desempenho.
Consumir mais que a HD 5970 é um absurdo.
Já sabemos que dual gpu de GTX 4XX só com um milagre da Nvidia, ou na próxima revisão ...
Eraldo Freitas
Usuário com assinatura bloqueada
Um review..
Passou pela minha mão pelo menos 6x 4870x2 e 3x GTX295.. E testei com 2 processadores diferentes...sempre a ati na frente.. e isso, em stock... Tem até uns benchs la no topico de 3dmark, tu pode da uma olhada.
O que eu gostei foi de ver que a GTX 480 usa a mesma memoria que a 5870 e 5850 (samsung K4G10325FE-HC04). Me deu ânimo em fazer um overzinho na minha 5850... Se não fosse pelo alto consumo de energia e temperaturas tão altas o fermi seria um sucesso!!! Gostei dos review... Mas mesmo assim estou feliz com minha escolha!!!:thumbs_up
Eu não vejo motivos para o GF100 ser "destruidor" nas próximas litografias, até agora o desempenho da "nova hyper mega super irada" arquitetura do GF100 mal ganha da "velha, antiga, recauchutada, requentation" arquitetura R600 melhorada presente no R800 das HD5000. E pior, o GF100 ainda consome muito mais.
Únicos fatos que me deram boa impressões foram o desempenho em Tess e no F@H...e só. E pior que pro F@H a placa é quente d++, complicado deixar rodando horas seguidas.
Únicos fatos que me deram boa impressões foram o desempenho em Tess e no F@H...e só. E pior que pro F@H a placa é quente d++, complicado deixar rodando horas seguidas.
Desanimei legal vendo o consumo e temperatura dessas GTX480...
Gosto mais dos drivers Nvidia, mas imagina a temperatura do pc com uma dessas...?
Vantagem mesmo só em games DX11 e pouca...
Gosto mais dos drivers Nvidia, mas imagina a temperatura do pc com uma dessas...?
Vantagem mesmo só em games DX11 e pouca...
To é preocupado com a temperatura!
Olhando o review do guru3D a placa chega em jogos a 95 graus sendo que o limite é 105
Puts.. Definitivamente não e uma placa para o Brasil,vai dar pau na primeira semana de uso, a não ser que o cara só use o PC com ar condicionado, pq la nos paises que se vende a placa a temperatura e por volta de 20graus e olhe la...
Olhando o review do guru3D a placa chega em jogos a 95 graus sendo que o limite é 105
Puts.. Definitivamente não e uma placa para o Brasil,vai dar pau na primeira semana de uso, a não ser que o cara só use o PC com ar condicionado, pq la nos paises que se vende a placa a temperatura e por volta de 20graus e olhe la...
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Antigo Willd
Pior que a Nvidia nao vai poder lançar uma Dual Gpu pois se uma single chega consumir mais que uma Dual....ou seja a Nvidia vai estar trancada sem poder lançar uma placa superior pois seria energeticamente proibitivo.
Uma questão.. Em todos os Reviews a GTX480 consume e esquenta mais que a 5970
Como ela tem TDP de 250w e a 5970 tem de 295w??
Como é medido isso?
Pra mim foi FAIL esse lançamento, lembrou mto a HD2900xt mesmo
Mas a arquitetura parece ter potencial, vamus ver se as Mid´s vem legais e esperar uma Revisão "coelho da cartola" da Nvidia
Pra comprar isso ae pra mim só curtindo Physx, ou tendo oculos 3d que são bons atrativos
Ou sendo Fanboy.. que num é nenhum atrativo :lol:
Como ela tem TDP de 250w e a 5970 tem de 295w??
Como é medido isso?
Pra mim foi FAIL esse lançamento, lembrou mto a HD2900xt mesmo
Mas a arquitetura parece ter potencial, vamus ver se as Mid´s vem legais e esperar uma Revisão "coelho da cartola" da Nvidia
Pra comprar isso ae pra mim só curtindo Physx, ou tendo oculos 3d que são bons atrativos
Ou sendo Fanboy.. que num é nenhum atrativo :lol: