[PS4] Playstation 4 [ TÓPICO OFICIAL ]

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Más o gráfico de Metro é ruizin se comparado a Infamous, Battlefield 4 e até mesmo Watch Dogs que eram todos jogos de "lançamento" do PS4. Eu mesmo comprei o Metro zerei só o primeiro e vendi kk Comecei o 2 más sem condições, jogo travadão e feio. Já o inFamous... :lindo:
Eu acho a ambientação, direção de arte, texturas, partículas e sombras incríveis.
E travado em que sentido? Pois roda a 60 frames, diferente de Infamous e Watch_Dogs, que são 30 frames.
 
Alguém sabe como eu desativo o botão eject do PS4? O meu ta dando auto eject tempo todo, quero arrancar essa bost@ fora.
Tira a Borrachinha que tem de baixo do botão e vê se resolve.
 
É só puxar? Vou tentar dps aquele esquema de raspar o capacitor, preciso arrumar uma base pra ele também.

Tenta isso primeiro.
 
É só puxar? Vou tentar dps aquele esquema de raspar o capacitor, preciso arrumar uma base pra ele também.

O meu começou com isso poucos meses depois de comprado. Puxei a borrachinha (pé) do console e fiz uma limpeza do pó no botão lateral (de forçar o eject) e funcionou temporariamente. Pouco tempo depois voltou. Abri e fiz a raspagem do capacitor, foi a única solução real e permanente. Até hoje funciona 100% e o botão eject continua funcionando.
 
Acabei de jogar o the division aqui no meu ps4, caras, não estou acreditando no que vejo. O gráfico é medonho.
Inacreditável o cocô que virou.

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Também achei bem fraco. Só não vá no tópico PREVIEW de The Division falar isso que vão tentar te queimar vivo.

Teve um que me perguntou: "Nossa, mas você ta jogando o que então pra achar os gráficos ruins"
Ai eu respondi: "Praticamente todos AAA tem gráficos melhores (BF4, TW3, BO3, BB, MGS V, etc)"
Ai veio um e falou "Estes jogos podem ser belos, mas nenhum chega a ter tantos detalhes e efeitos. Nenhum desses é tão belo quanto The Division"

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Também achei bem fraco. Só não vá no tópico PREVIEW de The Division falar isso que vão tentar te queimar vivo.

Teve um que me perguntou: "Nossa, mas você ta jogando o que então pra achar os gráficos ruins"
Ai eu respondi: "Praticamente todos AAA tem gráficos melhores (BF4, TW3, BO3, BB, MGS V, etc)"
Ai veio um e falou "Estes jogos podem ser belos, mas nenhum chega a ter tantos detalhes e efeitos. Nenhum desses é tão belo quanto The Division"

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:apelo:

O remédio desses caras deve ser muito forte.:haha:
 

Tenta isso primeiro.


O meu começou com isso poucos meses depois de comprado. Puxei a borrachinha (pé) do console e fiz uma limpeza do pó no botão lateral (de forçar o eject) e funcionou temporariamente. Pouco tempo depois voltou. Abri e fiz a raspagem do capacitor, foi a única solução real e permanente. Até hoje funciona 100% e o botão eject continua funcionando.

Nem precisa raspar, basta colar uma fita isolante na trilha do conector

Valeu! Vou direto na opção da raspagem ou então da fita.

@charlinger é só colocar a fita em cima do capacitor?
 
Más o gráfico de Metro é ruizin se comparado a Infamous, Battlefield 4 e até mesmo Watch Dogs que eram todos jogos de "lançamento" do PS4. Eu mesmo comprei o Metro zerei só o primeiro e vendi kk Comecei o 2 más sem condições, jogo travadão e feio. Já o inFamous... :lindo:

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Eu acho a ambientação, direção de arte, texturas, partículas e sombras incríveis.
E travado em que sentido? Pois roda a 60 frames, diferente de Infamous e Watch_Dogs, que são 30 frames.


Concordo com tudo. E alem disso é um JOGÃO,os dois são.
 
Achei o The Division legalzinho, apenas isso
 
Eu acho a ambientação, direção de arte, texturas, partículas e sombras incríveis.
E travado em que sentido? Pois roda a 60 frames, diferente de Infamous e Watch_Dogs, que são 30 frames.

Amei as texturas, dignas de um remaster (ele é um ótimo remaster, isso não nego), Uma apresentação bem limpa e cuidadosa. Más o design dos monstros achei ruim... Para mim um jogo travado não se baseia em frames. Jogo no meu pc em 60fps quando minha gtx 970 não me deixa na mão rs MÁÁS antes de tudo sou jogador de console há muito tempo, amos meus pleistacho, até o Vitinha que parece que a Sony esquece as vezes hehe. Nunca me importei muito com frames desde que o jogo seja legal. Metal Gear Solid 4 é um dos melhores jogos em minha lista pessoal e tem horas que o fps cai um pouquinho.

Bem, eu achei travado porque achei as personagens do Metro "duras" tipo robô, sem expressão. A pele só tinha a textura boa de resto era tudo muito estilo boneco de cera. E o ambiente era legal só que bem monótono, entendo que era um jogo de "terror" e tal. Más olha o Resident Remake de 2001-02, mesmo tendo backdrops fixos (estilo desenho) haviam luzes, insetos e pequenos detalhes que davam vida ao ambiente; já nesse jogo achei tudo bem zzzZZZzz

Fora o jeito que o boneco principal anda. Qualquer Battlefield dá uma imersão bem maior para o boneco que o player controla. Essa é a minha opinião
 
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Concordo com tudo. E alem disso é um JOGÃO,os dois são.

kkk se eu não apreciasse os gráficos eu jogava no iPad, obrigado :isquero:
 
Amei as texturas, dignas de um remaster (ele é um ótimo remaster, isso não nego), Uma apresentação bem limpa e cuidadosa. Más o design dos monstros achei ruim... Para mim um jogo travado não se baseia em frames. Jogo no meu pc em 60fps quando minha gtx 970 não me deixa na mão rs MÁÁS antes de tudo sou jogador de console há muito tempo, amos meus pleistacho, até o Vitinha que parece que a Sony esquece as vezes hehe. Nunca me importei muito com frames desde que o jogo seja legal. Metal Gear Solid 4 é um dos melhores jogos em minha lista pessoal e tem horas que o fps cai um pouquinho.

Bem, eu achei travado porque achei as personagens do Metro "duras" tipo robô, sem expressão. A pele só tinha a textura boa de resto era tudo muito estilo boneco de cera. E o ambiente era legal só que bem monótono, entendo que era um jogo de "terror" e tal. Más olha o Resident Remake de 2001-02, mesmo tendo backdrops fixos (estilo desenho) haviam luzes, insetos e pequenos detalhes que davam vida ao ambiente; já nesse jogo achei tudo bem zzzZZZzz

Fora o jeito que o boneco principal anda. Qualquer Battlefield dá uma imersão bem maior para o boneco que o player controla. Essa é a minha opinião
 


kkk se eu não apreciasse os gráficos eu jogava no iPad, obrigado :isquero:
Concordo com os rostos de cera, são bem fracos mesmo. Mas para mim o restante é sensacional.
 
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Concordo com tudo. E alem disso é um JOGÃO,os dois são.
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Essa discussão sobre gráficos é bem subjetiva. Eu achei eles aceitáveis, nada além do que vemos hoje tão pouco atrás. Jogabilidade boa, mistura de Future Soldier com a parte MMO do Destiny. Como sou fã do Tom Clancy, pra mim, compra garantida mesmo com alguns poréns (idem o R6 Siege).
 
Essa discussão sobre gráficos é bem subjetiva. Eu achei eles aceitáveis, nada além do que vemos hoje tão pouco atrás. Jogabilidade boa, mistura de Future Soldier com a parte MMO do Destiny. Como sou fã do Tom Clancy, pra mim, compra garantida mesmo com alguns poréns (idem o R6 Siege).

né? normalmente o que acontece é o pessoal da antiga geração(eu) nem importar tanto com gráficos...(lógico que tem gráfico que em pleno 2015/2016 que deixa a desejar) e o pessoal da nova geração (meninada de hj que começou a vida gamer jogando play1 pra frente) que só se importa com o gráfico, deixando de lado toda historia, enredo, climax, etc do jogo
 
né? normalmente o que acontece é o pessoal da antiga geração(eu) nem importar tanto com gráficos...(lógico que tem gráfico que em pleno 2015/2016 que deixa a desejar) e o pessoal da nova geração (meninada de hj que começou a vida gamer jogando play1 pra frente) que só se importa com o gráfico, deixando de lado toda historia, enredo, climax, etc do jogo

Depende muito.

Tem jogo bonito mas bem ruim. Tem jogo que bonito ajudaria a encarar. Não vou negar que não quero jogos bonitos, mas se me divertem, eles são bonitos. E bonitos que falo é serem bonitos de fato, não realistas. Vejam Project CARS: Apenas bonito. No PC jogo muito mais rFactor que é infinitamente mais feio mas me diverte mais.

Não adianta o jogo ser FODA e ter gráficos feios. Nem sei se tem pra console, mas Spec Ops: The Line dizem ter uma história muito boa e um gráfico feio. Ok que não dei bola ao jogo pela jogabilidade, mas um gráfico bonito ajudaria a maquiar mais.
 
Eu penso em um conjunto. Sim, meu primeiro console foi um ps1. Eu como disse, não me importo de jogar com fps abaixo dos 30 se o jogo não for ruim como também não vou deixar de jogar um jogo por ter gráficos ruins. Não foi pelo gráfico que parei de jogar Metro Redux, eu apenas não curti o primeiro (apesar de ter zerado no ps4) não consegui continuar, achei muito parado e sim, achei o gráfico meio fraco nem vou falar do sotaque russo que me dava nos nervos.

Eu curto muito jogar jogos de ps1 ainda então questão gráfica é irrelevante, aprecio jogos em qualquer plataforma DESDE QUE sejam bons. Só me recuso a jogar esses indies que imitam o megaman de 19xx com barulho polifônico de mosquito da dengue :eca:

Estamos em 2015 e ninguém compra ps4 para jogar Atari. Os jogos custam 60$ ou 200 reais pra mais (hoje na Dilma Crysis) porque eu me sentiria satisfeito por algo feio meia boca e custando os olhos da cara?
 
Essa discussão sobre gráficos é bem subjetiva. Eu achei eles aceitáveis, nada além do que vemos hoje tão pouco atrás. Jogabilidade boa, mistura de Future Soldier com a parte MMO do Destiny. Como sou fã do Tom Clancy, pra mim, compra garantida mesmo com alguns poréns (idem o R6 Siege).
Quem fala que os gráficos são "sofríveis", eu queria saber o que andam jogando. Pq pra mim estão Ok.

Senti falta de uma introdução melhor, não sei se na versão final vai ser rasa assim. "Ah, você chegou? Vai lá fazer isso e depois volte aqui."
Seila, eu gosto de história, mostrar um pouco do que aconteceu antes da merda bater no ventilador e acabar assim.
 
Eu penso em um conjunto. Sim, meu primeiro console foi um ps1. Eu como disse, não me importo de jogar com fps abaixo dos 30 se o jogo não for ruim como também não vou deixar de jogar um jogo por ter gráficos ruins. Não foi pelo gráfico que parei de jogar Metro Redux, eu apenas não curti o primeiro (apesar de ter zerado no ps4) não consegui continuar, achei muito parado e sim, achei o gráfico meio fraco nem vou falar do sotaque russo que me dava nos nervos.

Eu curto muito jogar jogos de ps1 ainda então questão gráfica é irrelevante, aprecio jogos em qualquer plataforma DESDE QUE sejam bons. Só me recuso a jogar esses indies que imitam o megaman de 19xx com barulho polifônico de mosquito da dengue :eca:

Estamos em 2015 e ninguém compra ps4 para jogar Atari. Os jogos custam 60$ ou 200 reais pra mais (hoje na Dilma Crysis) porque eu me sentiria satisfeito por algo feio meia boca e custando os olhos da cara?

Não tiro sua razão, mas é algo pessoal. Por isso bato nesta tecla.

Olha o exemplo do Metro. Li o livro antes de jogar. Gráficos muito bons, jogabilidade, ambientação e tudo mais do jeito que adoro MAIS o fato de ter trazido a ambientação do livro, pelo jogo e por mim. Não contente com o sotaque Russo, coloquei o idioma em Russo. Perfeição.

Agora me perguntem se gosto de Bioshock Infinite? :haha:
 
Confesso que os gráficos do PS4 não me agradam mais. Fico muito decepcionado quando vejo um i3 de 3 gerações atrás com uma placa mid/low rendendo mais.

Depois de zerar o Uncharted 4 to pensando em vender meu PS4 e montar um PC.

Chega de 1080p com gráficos no medium/low com jogos custando 300 reais.

Na verdade só não vendi ainda pelo Uncharted 4.

Falo msm. :melior::melior::melior:
 

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